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Message 13: Davin


> We evolved Davin, just like the dinosaurs and every other living thing
> on the planet.

I agree that we evolved. I told you that I agree with evolution.

> This is only a recent phenomenon. You'd be surprised how much church
> and state are intertwined. Look at that protest by atheists in Italy
> that was banned by the state because the state was afraid of upsetting
> people, i.e. the were worried about loosing votes if they allowed
> it.

There are bad Christians just as there are bad atheists.

> Sure they are earthly rules for keeping peace and harmony as the
> rulers of the country would wish.

As I said above, there are bad Christians just as there are bad
atheists.  Just because some religions at some times have been used to
control people doesn't mean that it is inherently wrong.

> I'm talking mostly in a historical sense. Religion is a form of
> oppression and to use a stronger term, brain washing.

Do you not agree that morality is an important topic?  It has been
said that the most important things in life (morality & religion) are
the least certain and the least important things in life (physics &
mathematics) are the most certain.

> Yes Churches do a lot of good. Again it is earthly work to keep peace
> and harmony.

Can't you take a good act at face value?  Do you have to read sinister
motives into every act of kindness and love?

> Davin, there is a long line of people who have claimed God talks to
> them, from all the prophets including Jesus, also Hitler and right up
> to G.W. Bush. The whole lot of them could be said to have suffered
> from some form of mental illness. (hearing voices inside their heads)

So what?  When someone tells me that God is talking directly to them
and telling them to do such and such, I take their statement as being
metaphorical rather than literal.  When I meditate, for example, God's
plan for me reveals itself to me.

> Often major atrocities are carried out in the name of God in times of
> war. Isn't it funny how each side in warfare claims to have God on
> their side and that the other side is wrong. Look at European
> History. We see the same thing now with Islam, Judaism and Christian,
> all born from the same roots incidentally, just differing beliefs on
> interpretation. Look at the amount of trouble in the world because of
> that little thing.

Just because some people believe that God is commanding them to do
such and such doesn't mean that religion is wrong.  Look at science
for example.  Most of it is good, but some of it is bad, such as
chemical & germ weapons.
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